Domene | Spletno gostovanje | Reseller gostovanje | EMAIL gostovanje
SSL certifikati | Spletne aplikacije na klik | Brezplačna spletna stran (Website Builder) | WordPress gostovanje
Spletne strani, brezplačna izdelava in namestitev | Poceni letalske karte | Letalske karte | Poceni hoteli

klementina · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 06.01. 2009, 19:10 Prispevkov: 33

Hvala bassdrum,da si me povabil k sodelovanju ampak poznam veliko zgodb ffx in vem,kako so težko pridobljeni denar ljudje izgubili,poznam tudi ljudi kateri so zaračunavali procente in so v društvu,poznam velike in male promotorje in tudi vem,da tožba proti Cardoni se prične z donacijo,kar pomeni,da društvo nima odgovornosti do svojih strank,razen moralne. Zame to ni transparentno. Moje delo je v odvetniški pisarni in zato so mi mogoče stvari poznane saj sama vedno pričnem z pogodbo in s takim neprofesionalnim pristopom sebe ne vidim kot poslovne partnerke. Že v začetku,ko se je društvo ustanavljalo sem preko foruma glasno opozarjala ampak ljudje so pristopili,plačali in sedaj lahko čakajo,da se z špancem dogovorijo.Mene bolj zanima kaj bi pokazala revizija društva. Ampak to bi moralo zanimat vas donatorje!!

Da odgovorim še nekaterim,ki bodo rekli,da mogoče podpihujem in,da si je potrebno pomagat...res je vedno sem opozarjala,nikoli podpihovala in nikoli žalila,vendar žal nekateri me niste slišali

riba22 · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 29.04. 2009, 13:57 Prispevkov: 38

Included below is a Victim Information Sheet. [b]If you have not previously completed and returned a Victim Information Sheet, please complete one and return it by regular mail not later than September 1, 2011[/b], to the address listed on the form. If you have already completed and returned a Victim Information Sheet, do not submit a second one.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/flm/vw/usvsEMG.html
Pozdrav svima koji su razrađivali strategiju povrata.

Drobizek · Objavljeno: 08 Apr 2011 15:30 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="riba22"]Included below is a Victim Information Sheet. [b]If you have not previously completed and returned a Victim Information Sheet, please complete one and return it by regular mail not later than September 1, 2011[/b], to the address listed on the form. If you have already completed and returned a Victim Information Sheet, do not submit a second one.
http://www.justice.gov/usao/flm/vw/usvsEMG.html
Pozdrav svima koji su razrađivali strategiju povrata.[/quote]

??? ne razumem

riba22 · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 29.04. 2009, 13:57 Prispevkov: 38

Kod nas u Hrvatskoj se u pravnom smislu nešto događa. Kako je u Sloveniji?

OBJAVLJENO U DANAŠNJEM IZDANJU VJESNIKA
PREVARA Lagao i da mogu do glavnice
Počelo suđenje za aferu Finance Forex
http://www.vjesnik.hr/Article.aspx?ID=A833466C-C9DE-44DD-B5F5-C3994428202C
Sutkinja Vesna Piškorec-Kuzmić nastavak suđenja, na kojem bi trebali biti ispitani ostali svjedoci, zakazala je za 17. svibnja.

lisec · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 23.03. 2011, 12:48 Prispevkov: 10

DROBIZEK ni meni nije nič jasno kaj je RIBA prevela :?

riba22 · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 29.04. 2009, 13:57 Prispevkov: 38

[quote="lisec"]DROBIZEK ni meni nije nič jasno kaj je RIBA prevela :?[/quote]
Dao sam vam Web adrese sa originalnim tekstovima
[b]Dal sem ti spletni naslov z izvirna besedila[/b]

lisec · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 23.03. 2011, 12:48 Prispevkov: 10

Ma nije u tebi problem nego u originalu poslao sam i mail- Tom Campbell-u i ništa

branik · Objavljeno: 18 Apr 2011 21:54 Naslov sporočila:

Avtor :Poseidon

[quote]JUNTA ADMINISTRATIVA
PROACTIVOS POR SOLUCIONES EN FFX

Versión en ingles/ English Version

PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS FOR FINANCE FOREX "PROPSEFFX "
PRESS No. 17
SPECIAL INFORMATION

Bogota - Colombia, April 15, 2011

Friends associated, displaying ethics and accountability, based on our principles as an association, this communication is to report what the state of affairs to this day, when we get ready for closure of receipt documentation, and give some guidelines that enable those who have not made a
decision, think and act according to the no heart, but reason.

have placed a deadline of April 15 to receive the documents that prove to the American authorities to a direct claim of the money blocked, is partly due to administrative and physical wear suing people who help us in receiving and organize information, who have had to sacrifice their time towards this purpose, as well, because although we would have all the associated EMG investors, we understand that legally join and investment demand is voluntary, and require at We both know who really the time to reclaim our rights under the premise that those investors who have decided to remain partners outside this effort and do not want to send some documents, and still expect about what the U.S., some day, the company is going to call to restore their part, cannot logically encouraged from people who have taken the courageous decision to sue its own;
issue will be discussed later.

Many today are torn between indecision sue because they think it is getting into trouble with U.S. authorities, some who are afraid of losing her visa, others believe that one day the authorities will return the money to EMG and this in turn to investors, others see that there are more chances of getting something through other partnerships and a new figure called platform, etc.

What follows are personal or subjective assessments as tools of persuasion, they are shortcuts and timely topics checked with our lawyers directly in line with the management of justice in the USA, in this sense, things are as follows:

1. In USA there is a certain frozen money and assets held at the companies where EMG was much of the money from investors, as such, the authorities know that among these monies are some (not all) of EMG, as there are active gold property consisting of EMG.

2. The research is focused for now on those companies to be incorporated in USA, it is clear to the authorities that there are irregularities and alleged criminal conduct are now under investigation in a criminal proceeding that can last a couple of years or more and which will continue civil proceedings.

3. It is true that the transition from civil or criminal process in general, has been lengthened by the delivery of individual documents to investors EMG Florida Attorney or by the action of associations, is elongated by the merits so far been found by the authorities, leading to stop the civil process was first initiated, pending completion of the criminal proceedings against the major players involved.

4. Without having a formal process against EMG, searching to know the role of EMG in the existing irregular actions by the companies investigated. Had there been no such power, there would be no investigation or already have ended long ago.

5. The authorities know that the money is EMG investors of different nationalities; know the total number of investors of EMG and arguably for now, this is not your main concern, as if it is, that these funds have a legal origin and have had a legal operation through the American financial system. It is understood in advance what is or has been circulated outside the system, it is not legal for the authorities, especially if it is capital of a foreign company.

6. EMG investors can participate as claimants of their investments directly in the Office of Florida, without having to mediate any lawyer, at present there are over 5000 individual claimants.

7. Proactive has about 5400 members and in this last week we received an average of 700 daily powers our lawyers.

8. The use of lawyers as it does proactive, as a tool for providing security to the authorities and to be represented, not to act alone and streamline processes where appropriate, it is emphasized. That in our case, is a process of direct action and not demand

9. The choice of our attorneys, was directed to continue to act with legal arguments about American law in the State of Florida, and have dominion response to requirements of the Office of the Prosecutor and the information to in turn pass it on to investors . We reject the position to act on convictions, assumptions and conjectures guided by EMG ultra defenders or detractors of the same, they only end up confusing and giving a misreading of reality.

10. The certificate of ownership of money to the American authorities, is being and will be individual, not collective, and the claimants are represented by an association or legal person, hence the importance of annexing the largest possible support in their documents, and under theTruth when they do not have, which are indispensable in this process.

11. Consistent with this, and the delicate and complex matter, the money will be delivered to investors claimants directly (with or without an attorney) and not as an association or company representing investors say, what follows in advance that what many call platform support, and German have Cardona recognition and support documents provided by EMG, it is within the concept.

12. For the American authorities have not acknowledged or supported the subjective business policies under investigation, may make or unincorporated, in turn, also have means of pressure or subjective support communities, whether they are these: Forums, public demonstrations, rallies, marches, speeches advertising, associations, etc. Account for the authorities is substantial demonstrable evidence to be considered within the process

13. In the case of the platform, so that it acts on American soil, you should hire a law firm in this country, which have already cost the promoters can be 12%, while expected Proactive pay no more than 5%.

14. By simple logic, that this platform supports the American authorities only correspond with banking, the talk of other operations will talk about operations outside the financial system and do not believe they will do, on pain of having to prove legal figure that could make the other operations.

15. Proactive problem will not show any media partners who have submitted and not applicable to banking, to record the ownership of investment, since it does not figure to us to prove the legality of this procedure, but was part of business scheme, and not why we go to investigate or prosecute individual investors, as at times they have done to see who criticize the claims process directly to the authorities.

16. Who promote the platform, say that with the support documents to submit it to the authorities in USA (only a minority), and probably correspond only to the banking operations carried out from different countries into American territory, you can retrieve it locked; and in turn, be used to pay or distribute to investors 100% of EMG. This is just a dream and a desire for allegedly noble enough, as an association we do not dare to criticize, however, it is necessary for the authorities say that work is the reality, and within it, is to ensure its return of money to their owners. This indicates that in the event that assumption and prosper action claiming the platform, and after deduction of administrative authority (that is how you do), attorneys' fees of the latter, the authorities proceed to distribute and pay the money to Complaining investors individually. How could then re-order platform these funds to such investors to distribute as they say 100% of total EMG investors and how many would be the wise and acting "altruistically" would be able to return what they have paid officially by the authorities, a mutual fund distribution?. Please, we need more objectivity, to believe that everything can be accomplished in The manner as we would like all for the good of all.

17. The American authorities, including the Secret Service have appointed a group of people investigating and being aware of everything, even without having given us the documents, it is understood that maybe aware of the intentions of the associations and among them The platform, they are not naive enough to not realize that so say that the platform is outside the firm, there invisible strings behind her in EMG, if even the name of one of its representatives Mr. LUIS DIAZ appears related to the arrest warrant of Mr. Germain Cardona in Spain. Incidentally, this detention, which was an extension of the deadline for receipt of documents to September by the Office of Florida, and not the paper has done Proactive or other association.

18. In other words, the authorities seek to know and show where the truth may be required to determine whether there was unlawful. That should come to the conclusion that there was no such, they know they need to ensure that those who have gone to them by invoking a right to retrieve what is theirs by law, and that process will take care of any move that may perceive them as a disguise or by STRATEGY of EMG or other companies under investigation in taking such money. Is gathered that the authorities have alleged good intentions, but what they can find and let stand to avoid trouble themselves side.

19. Proactive efforts should be respected, no comparisons can be vague with the platform or in a competition of who shows more strengths or abilities, which ultimately serve to confuse more people. No one must be well versed and intelligent not to know that if you have the database of the company or can access it, and if they have operation tests are part of the operator's attempt to rebut, and as such , so it may be capable of action in different countries or places where money has assets or the company.

20. Based on the foregoing, the platform should not require registration form, or use a name whose connotations are disciplicientes, when you see that there are a few supporting the company on behalf of all others. Their actions should be open and accessible to investors, and not under the premise that one should not ask much and to be trusted blindly. For trusting blindly criticizing the vast majority who balances required at the time, evidence of investment, operational support, etc., is that today we are at this juncture.

21. The reality is that today we should have a DEFENSE OFFICIAL by EMG to protect the interests of investors, making use of the data base and other bases required before the authorities of the countries where there are assets or monies. The platform is not the official defense of the company as it should, according to documents created, is a partnership that claims to have the support of EMG which is different from an official representation granted by constitution or legal document service. What we today call platform, if you have the scope that says have, equivalent to legal rights they should have as investors, to be defended our interests by EMG, at no cost and without gimmicky names of figures, as proposed by Proactive Mr. German Cardona at the time, when we communicate with him.

22. Within the realities we invite investors living members and non members, is that the authorities are the U.S. or elsewhere, who claims ACCOUNT, and in the case of the money blocked in the U.S., once the money recovered will be distributed regardless of the scheme they use, among the claimants, therefore, if it is about money, probably will become the legal property of the U.S. government. This reality can not be taken as an excuse for Proactive comparison is concerned only a minority who are partners, not for 100% of investors as it is supposed to set the platform, since from 5 November 2009 we initiated activities, we have been open to summon all to join the association and this is voluntary. Since then, our main concern has been to keep partners informed and have had any zeal or restrictions to non-members, do not pursue the profit motive and therefore got a low rate of fees to lawyers, whose signature or name is not secret, nor is our business. We are not interested in continuing or sponsoring other business or follow the game to take advantage of multi-level domain or using the information for the past few benefit, we focus on the major issue is the recovery of capital

23. In Proactive, we are convinced that since this problem came from the hands of EMG, this matter could no longer be handled by a closed group of Spanish and requires multidisciplinary, help and presence of representatives of all countries where there investors, ensure oversight and transparency in all subsequent acts upon the intervention of the authorities, and had been errors in the previous acts that led to all this trouble. This was offered in due course Mr. Germain Cardona, we knew and we know that not everything can be said and offered as collateral LEGAL CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS. Therefore, the association was international in scope and have representatives of some countries, while not a secret that the platform will follow the scheme closed a group of Spanish, which is in direct line with the interests of EMG, that in the final transit of the money to its rightful owners, it is used in other businesses and benefit a few, but the great reality which have failed to recognize is that the vast majority want to retrieve their own and do Not follow more adventures of this kind.

24. If the platform claims to represent all investors and has access to information, should be the ethical value of providing all documents and financial information to the authorities, it would streamline all processes and reduce the punishment and concerns to us Investors have seen the object in the almost three years, likewise, would have the same information, equal opportunities and equal rights for all investors. If they do, is because they might fall engaged in crimes related as hidden information and lend themselves to follow the game that have used EMG to date, to use the information to blackmail investors indirectly curtailed their right to free and to claim that legally can be taken as alleged obstruction, blackmail and physical violence, by withholding information and emotional pressure to investors by denying them their rights, failing to see the accounts closed or canceled in the back office of EMG, the same as for all However there is no access for many months.

In conclusion, investor friend from this explanation the decision is yours and we saythat because of the many documents received (700) and calls from different countries carried out in the last three days at the office of counsel, we extended the date to receive documents only until the day of May 5, leaving only one period to date for those who have made or are to comment on the documents without any problem can complement especially those who have proof of your investment and / or link with the company EMG / FFX to make viable its claim, this same period they can only benefit those who follow the instructions to send their documents but full and without comment, not to give to further extensions of time.
We also have a new option on the website of Proactivosffx.com, Query: Affiliations, Legal, documentation, progress in the complaint in the U.S., general information and very soon we will have a conference where you can connect and exchange views with members of the Proactive Board and with the law firm of Rivas.
We appreciate any concerns or comments that concerns us our goal, canalize through known means of Proactive and so we will respect the agreement signed between FFX and SIGNATURE PROPS RIVAS PA allowing them in his law firm to pursue its work without interruption calls members or investors.

Best Regards

ADMINISTRATIVE BOARD
PROACTIVE SOLUTIONS FOR FFX
“PROPSE FFX”
Cancelar Suscripción / Cambiar Perfil[/quote]

[b]Vse teme ki se odpirajo brez potrebe bom brisal...admin.[/b]

trumanovojaje · NOVI član Pridružen/-a: 28.02. 2011, 12:55 Prispevkov: 4

Ali je kdo vrnil denar ... mislim, da ni

lisec · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 23.03. 2011, 12:48 Prispevkov: 10

Pa kak ni jaz sem vrnil......... (voile)

janezvalva · NOVI član Pridružen/-a: 09.12. 2008, 23:18 Prispevkov: 3

jest sm vložu cirka 1600€...

REYA · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 29.11. 2009, 16:42 Prispevkov: 90

[quote="janezvalva"]jest sm vložu cirka 1600€...[/quote]

1.7.2011 je zadnji rok za pristop investitorjev v Društvo.

lisec · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 23.03. 2011, 12:48 Prispevkov: 10

Kaj to znači da naše tužbe idu na sodišće tek v 8. mj.

Vampir · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 12.01. 2009, 00:49 Prispevkov: 12

Halo! Kaj se dogaja z vami Forexovci? Ste dobili vrnjen denar ali kaj, ali ste se pa vsi sprijaznili z dejstvom, da smo popušiil, da se nihče več ne oglasi na tem forumu. Mal povejte kaj ste ukrenili??? Kaj pa ovadbe za MAT oz. FTIH, kdo jih je zares oddal???

mlm21 · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 18.04. 2009, 15:42 Prispevkov: 99

Jaz sem prijavil terjatev tukaj:
http://www.justice.gov/usao/flm/vw/usvsEMG.html

Če je nekaj kapitala blokiranega nam pa le morda kdaj kaj spustijo...

Domene | Spletno gostovanje | Reseller gostovanje | EMAIL gostovanje SSL certifikati | Spletne aplikacije na klik | Brezplačna spletna stran (Website Builder) | WordPress gostovanje Spletne strani, brezplačna izdelava in namestitev | Poceni letalske karte | Letalske karte | Poceni hoteli

Domene | Spletno gostovanje | Reseller gostovanje | EMAIL gostovanje
SSL certifikati | Spletne aplikacije na klik | Brezplačna spletna stran (Website Builder) | WordPress gostovanje
Spletne strani, brezplačna izdelava in namestitev | Poceni letalske karte | Letalske karte | Poceni hoteli