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branik · Objavljeno: 18 Nov 2009 19:28 Naslov sporočila:

[quote]in naj bi se nekaj zgodilo do sobote[/quote]

Najbolj me bega v tem stavku " naj bi se "

Bomo videli saj sobota ni tako daleč....

Drobizek · Objavljeno: 18 Nov 2009 19:35 Naslov sporočila:

ja, odblokiran kapital in do sobote se bo zgodilo naslednje: POBASAL SI GA BODO U ŽEPE IN ČRTA.lol

saj oni u soboto sploh ne delajo, tako da bo treba do ponedeljka počakat

periegetes · Objavljeno: 18 Nov 2009 20:10 Naslov sporočila: VPRAŠALNIK

[quote="bassdrum"]Ali si se ti priključil Periegetes?
Kaj predlagaš ostalim tu, da se takoj priključimo, ali počakamo in se dogovorimo kot skupina?
Ali je dodatno potrebno kaj napisati kot text ali samo podatke?[/quote]

Ja, jaz sem se že priključil skupini. Seveda bi bilo dobro, če se nas čimveč priključi - večje število, večja moč prepričevanja. Jutri bom tudi oddal spodnji obrazec, ki je preveden z google translate iz španščine...

Torej vabim še ostale, do 20. novembra se naj sprinta in podpiše vprašalnik, nato skenira in pošlje ..., seveda pa lahko organiziramo in zberemo sami podatke o nas, ki smo vlagatelji... Nekdo pa mora to naredit...

[quote]
Bogotá (Colombia), November 17 2009

Evolution Market Group (EMG)
ATT. Mr. GERMÁN CARDONA SOLER

[b]Ref: Survey conducted by the consensus of 6954 investors from all countries that provided questions and concerns for this document. [/b]

We previously that the document presented here is extensive and can be exhausting, however, to collect ideas from thousands of investors, you're welcome to read it slowly without any prevention, as each word is substantial and important to both you, the company, investors and the immediate future.
Greetings from the land Colombian who received him on many occasions you as the ideal project that traced to carry the foreign exchange market within reach of ordinary people, not only this country but worldwide. Effort and commitment that despite the current circumstances we must recognize, as he should be criticized for whoever does not do, and that in 99% of investors who incorporate the company, our life is divided before and after FFX her, and although many do not achieve a tangible economic benefit in time, they can not ignore the new vision we have today on these markets.
Mr Clarke also was credited the efforts he has been doing with his team for the recovery of the company and the lack of adequate and timely information, it allows us to know exactly what you are doing about it. But the undeniable facts that still works the official website of the company that you are in front of the problem and the generation of the projects launched recently in Europe, are evidence of unquestionable honesty and willingness to solve all these problems.
However, it appears that in their zeal to solve problems and work tirelessly to that end, has weakened an important aspect of management, which is the Corporate Image Management, Management and Information Channels Communication Company to the thousands of investors who placed their trust in you and your ideal. We are aware that there is information that is part of the formula of success of a project and is essential for certain securities for good business performance, so are confidential or secret, however, in the particular case that concerns us, is observed protective zeal that information has come to exaggerated extremes of silence that has harmed the company's corporate image as the image of himself and those who accompany him in his titanic efforts to solve everything. Surely, your goal is to apply the maxim that "the tangible facts than words", however, when these facts are slow changing circumstances by the same financial markets as chameleon which has seen a transformation of the company figures that have been relegated on the road to give way today to those that are apparently if required, it is normal to wake up in most of us investors, doubts that translate into mistrust, which we hope will be understandable by yours, as well as it has been a difficult year for you and those accompanying him, was double for us, for one simple reason: "Since the beginning the problem we have failed to stick."
For this reason we created the group "proactive in FFX solutions; it, oblivious to any role, you are looking to integrate the concerns of the majority of investors who make up the capital base of FFX, to make them come to you by appropriate channel of mediation and dialogue, to be who you clarify to us under the law designed to assist us by being the majority and that is indisputable obligation to settle the dispute or the firm answer, apart from the tangible facts and implicit which also must be met.
In advance thank you already have to show their part to improve channels of communication by recognizing the proactive group SOLUTIONS FFX as interlocutor to convey these concerns and the first message they sent us on November 12, but even though there are some very important clarification, there are still other unresolved. We know that there may be a prejudice on his part, which was highlighted in an audio where you spoke to some promoters in Mexico, and in this critical of what it is asked, therefore, why this and why the other, as you what is essential is that if something is done to an end that is required. This we understand it and not be so pleasant preguntadera, but should be aware that if at least once the exercise becomes rather than responding to what is being asked, then you probably will not be necessary. The problem is when there has been no information for a great time and it is intended in a few words or a single message, explaining all this welter of concerns raised.
We believe that an honest answer to all that time we put here and speedy verification of tangible facts, can help the massive recovery of confidence in the company and many others prefer to choose the path of repudiation. Moreover, once satisfied all doubts expressed here, this experiment we started to be a bridge between investors and the directors of the company, may be referred to mainstream investors in solving the problem and not be relegated in the background, if working as a team, suddenly the solution times are shortened or at least will be more bearable and hopefully.
Without further ado, we present our concerns and then set out some recommendations, which the authors are anonymous in this case, simply ask and answer specific absolute sincerity because, as well say, "between heaven and earth there is nothing hidden" and is preferable to time and not really a lie or an excuse to finally destroy the trust:

QUESTIONS: The most urgent and prioritized
1.Ya told us he had no control of time, or the authorities to know when failure will occur, but do require you to tell us where you can say what is the status of proceedings in the U.S.?
2.Without consider the problem state and on the basis that the strategy launched in June should have a structured planning: market conditions, probabilities, margins of error and low non-speculative figures Why is everything when it believes in 50% and / or completely solved, this involves the replacement of the frozen funds operating in the accounts of investors and normal operation of return of capital and profits, including pending transfers from FFX that never came to PM?
3. When is it going to be able to withdraw per card (those who have them) the operating earnings of capital and in what order by month of application will be able to make withdrawals?
4. When are you going to make the transactions requested from the operating earnings of capital and in what order they will be able to do?
5. Is there a guarantee fund that does not make part of it locked, What it is, how and where value is updated?
6. Why despite having implemented an active policy of capital which recovery is conditional on the generation of monthly returns, investors can not realize the capital?
Fortnightly activation 7.La capital is understood to be on "Role of the results and the earnings generated for the company (not the investors) operating capital Should we assume that in these months, no gains or what is the reason that did not become reactivated capital as had been happening?
8.No is very clear already provided the answer which relates to the entire block represents investment in 2007, 2008 and the surplus existing at 31 December 2008, we need to know How much cash is capital really is blocked in the U.S. and that banks are, and how much in other assets? since there must be an accounting and accurate this information.
9. How much capital is currently working in Europe? Of it, how much corresponds to the original investors of FFX and how new investors who are helping the recapitalization?
10.A who sent money to Europe or were enrolled in 2009, Why they have not been able to pay their gains throughout the year if capital market and advertise your payments would be no problem?, What has been the reason for not timely warn?
11. Is it possible that lawyers assigned to the case issued an official report of the status of the investigation or any other medium, which does not include personal names or reference data that could compromise the information?
12.Se speaks of 22000 cards that will send soon, what date this starts shipping estimate, will be a group in whole or in shipping as many different groups?
13.Como are going to solve the situation to the other investors (approx 160,000) in terms of cards and transfers, taking into account nearly a year to meet that are pending and that transfers are not done?
14.Usted more than anyone knows that people will not have patience to wait another year as stated in its earlier email and more without having some liquidity, whether any action looming What will you do about it?
15.The contract we signed with EMG / FFX refers exclusively to the capital invested will only be used for the Forex market and not another type of investment. As such:
Excluding those who invested in commodities for its willingness why the company did not seek permission or approval of other investors to allocate capital across different investment types FOREX and now for the constitution of PFPLACE?

Are investors capital accounts must be regulated as broker says the contract because time was held by another person (s) as implied in the letter that was circulated to send lawyers to support the process in the USA?

EMG In no time asked for consent to investors experience in investment programs on behalf of another person, then as now EMG will be responsible for the damage caused by decisions outside the context of the contract?

How many investors entered as value commodities and the total amounts of their investments?

If the blockage is why in October 2008 were commodity promotion and revenue of $ 200,000 until December and $ 400,000 between January and February 2009 and for forex money itself, What was this money? and Why did they allow people to continue negotiating balances and DI especially high trajectory that allegedly were aware of existing problems?
16. How many investors have in total the company today?
17. Why we never returned the contract signed by you, why worry?
ESSENTIAL QUESTIONS: So ANSWERS ARE REQUIRED TO DETERMINE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE COMPANY IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE AND THUS ITS FUNCTIONING

1.SITUACION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN USA:

a) It is right and know that what really happened, what company (s) involved, as FFX is involved in the problem.
b) You mentioned in your previous message which included a strict compliance in Panama for the control of the money, but it has been speculated that the problems are related to the presence of illicit money is for the companies with which it was commercial or directly with FFX and even arrests occurred What is this information true?
c) Who is Mr. Daniel Fernandez Red Philo - DWD HOLDING COMPANY and that has to do with the problems the company currently living?
d) What broker (s) were managing our money when the facts involved in blocking?
e) For commodities portfolio mentioned a particular general insurance and one for those who want to acquire Why not have these safe and effective particularly for the last who invested in this portfolio who still have not recovered their initial money ?
f) If there is a blockage in October 2008, why are profits reflecting operations of FX and Commodities in October, November, December and January? Where did he got his money for these operations and what happened to him and reflected the profits?
g) What happened to the money from the proceeds of March and April 2009 if the blockade was already known from before that is to be understood that these gains are fully operational?, why put them retained as part of what?
h) and as explained Supposedly some people who talked to you directly in Spain in July, some of the returns that they paid between October and December did so with money that was available Why does it take to March 2009, four (04) months to take action on the matter?
i) understands that it is true that there existed high volatility in world markets in February, but this is not the cause of not reflecting gains in the month What was really happened in the month of February respect and why not told the truth, which would have allowed all scheduled for the remainder of the year?
j) It is known that the blockade began in October 2008, and yourself in a message sent on November 12 clarifies that the process can be extended for a period of time which can not be exact reason What was the reason not to have said the same since December last year, or even since March 2009, so that every one program this year and next?
k) When it began promoting the company, said the company would not put everything in one basket, but even then there was talk of investment in Europe, Japan, etc.. What happened then, why was everything or as a share in the U.S.? Was only promotion strategy?
l) How many claims are being faced as many as affected part and afectante? Is it possible to know the states and courts where they grow?

2.TARJETAS

a) At its November 12 statement you referred only to the high card What card prospects operate normally have today WE have the card and the Altair, given that it has announced the issuance of another card ?
b) Who are today's high card will come a time that it is inoperable?
c) What company will operate the other card?
d) What will happen to those who paid a high price for the initial card and they never arrived?
e) How are you doing to solve the problem or means of payment cards to U.S. residents?
f) There are people who loaded money onto the card and that WE never could withdraw When are they going to spend the money to your account in PM or one must assume that he is lost?
g) In the shipment of cards that they send, will replace the WE? "Investors must pay again for receiving this card?
h) It was said that the cards were costly because they would generate management fee but notes that if they charge What's the reason?
i) When is going to standardize the operation of the cards, ie that can be loaded and immediately withdraw?
j) What cost will be the new card, and what will be its handling costs and commission for retirement?
k) What will be the amounts that will allow loading and withdraw each month?

3.TRANSFERENCIAS

When is going to standardize this procedure so that it can be employed for those who could not ask for your card, and for those who have large amounts that are impossible to remove only by card?

CAPITAL 4.ACTIVACIÓN

a) Why investors with amounts from 1000 units or less, up to 9,000 usd, activate them percentages of 10% and 6%, whose income is generated to move the system does not allow its amount so low? Is it operational strategy to see? * Must earn income from many months to move them.
b) Some people sent their money to Europe and met their investments over 6 months Why not let them cancel their investment if they fulfilled and the time?

5.PAGOS RETURNS

a) There are contradictions that are not understood:
On the company announced that starting June 1 what would happen to PM effective immediately
In its statement of November 12 says that invest in portfolios that have not fulfilled their payment dates or are delayed
If there has been money to create alliances with other companies and FX One

What is the exact reason why returns have not paid July to date, nor have they applied for bank transfers made from June to date?
What are the time period for paying employees of those new investments that speaks?

b) It is assumed that all the money not being invested in forex but more profitable portfolios unveiled as reported by What is the reason then that the operating capital yields have fallen so far?

6.NUEVAS INVESTING

a) Once locked the money in the U.S., how much money or how much work began in Europe and all that now?
b) What percentage of money as investors are still operating in forex and the remainder in other portfolios which are invested?
c) There is speculation that the company currently invests in portfolios of high returns and promotional mention of which is restricted, and pay as the case weekly and monthly returns, according to this:

How safe are the investments in this time of the company, so that in his previous message, then talk of delays for receipt of money as the reason for not generating the timely payment of some monthly returns to investors?
In many instances individuals who sent their money to Europe and have not been paid all year delay "This company has not received payment for returns of these portfolios?
Most cases have been made in the last 5 months this time Do they get their money without delay by those portfolios or a recapitalization strategy with operating earnings of investors?
If a recapitalization strategy with operating earnings of investors, why he never said when they reopened registration for the 2009?
d) that the company is known for its recapitalization has attracted new investors with large sums of money to invest in highly profitable portfolio "They are receiving daily earnings?. If so, why they are received and common investors not, if the sum of the money the latter is also investing in these portfolios?

7.Other ASSETS

a) What other company had assets in the U.S. at the time of the blockade and whether these also entered this same situation? He speaks for example of the Regency Suites Dolce
b) What other assets you have at this moment, in which countries and what is its value?; What are the characteristics of the Custodial in Panama, said in his message?
c) If there are other assets which have not sold the company to further capitalize?

8.SITUACION LEGAL AND CURRENT STATUS OF EMG AND OTHER RELATED COMPANIES

a) What is at present the legal status of incorporation so that is who legally preside and form as partners; validity and operability of EMG, Corner FX, 102 Capital, PM and PFPLACE?
b) Is there FINANCE FOREX like a different trading company EVOLUTION MARKET GROUP? If so can we please also provide information for partners.
c) Who is really behind FFX today in his recovery process, administration and payroll? Who were or will be abandoned to their fate?
d) How much capital will come to invest, lose and / or recover in the projects: Corner FX, 102 Capital, Dextraplus, PM and Alliances with card companies?
e) How much capital has been invested so far in PFPLACE and what investment is projected to finish to complete this project?
f) There is speculation that the company or the new figures, have a percentage of the company's FX One, if so how much is the amount of participation, which company name and how much it cost?
g) Understanding that the legal establishment of a business is something different regularization Which agency (s) regulating the international credit broker FX One PFPLACE advertising that pattern, that is said to be fully covered?

On the basis that many think it is better to pay what is due, instead of generating new business, it is necessary to refer to new projects and is seeking to disengage from FFX.

NEW 9.PROYECTOS

a) If it has not been paid for five months, counting the transfers, what benefits an investor to advertise or promote new projects? How can we promote a project without finishing the previous or fix what you can help the crisis in FFX as this has not been said openly and concretely?
b) Apart from the concept of having found the formula to keep working without going counter to the provisions of different countries and the concept of working with a regulated broker benefits Where in the recapitalization of the company or current situation live, creating PFPLACE and their alliances with other companies such as FX One?
c) How many real time is projected to begin receiving economic benefits PFPLACE project concept?
d) If payment problems paying now in FFX which is PM, what guarantees that in this new business will do the same?
e) How will the payments of PFPLACE, and announcing that another month to start now?
f) You know they have lost investor confidence and for those who started on the path of the networks today, many are fearful, frustrated, and so on. What solution ready to have liquidity they will have those who really do not want to stick to network?
g) How will you do to prevent the same subscriber PFPLACE do not often able to collect income from advertising? It is here that boundedness similar networks like Facebook are people who have multiple accounts and registration is under different names.
h) Why have not yet begun the money to work in FX One? For when you expect to happen?
i) How many investors have opened accounts and spent his money on FX One?
j) To which other broker will be able to spend money from PM with the same system used by Forex one?
k) When you think of the new projects, "He does so with the aim that eventually integrate those who are faithful few and FFX investors and a large population of new people who never belonged to it, or that those who are integrated the vast majority of people who grew up to FFX overflowed and thus a super-large population of new people?
l) If your answer above was the second choice Do you think that most successful economic strategy that is employed, but without a strategy, or if there is, at least not the most appropriate to combine the efforts and sense of belonging investors are going to achieve?

10.SOPORTE AND PRESS

a) What is being done to improve care in medium that does not work even on 9 November and whose phones do not answer?
b) PFPLACE support will be handled by them and in the same circumstances as that of FFX?
c) Are in FFX expertise to write reports or is a task that is performed by anyone who is assigned?
d) Is it possible to correct the process of preparing media to avoid the lack of clarity, bad grammar and ambiguity?
e) The support letter in Pacific-Mutual fails, it almost never respond to the incident, the telephone is almost impossible What will be done to improve this aspect?

CHANGING 11.Information concerning

a) With the changes of June 1 it was said that the status of requested transfers of returns in December 2008 and January 2009 were given priority and will gradually go by. Block is assumed in October 2008, meaning that these transfers should obey existing capital What happened to this objective?
b) The debt of FFX to investors by way of capital is locked in a considerable amount which constitutes capital and profits, but it grows and the missing payment of operating capital returns are on cards and four months in 5 months Is this transfer a snowball that grows and goes out of hand?
c) To avoid increasing the debt more new returns and taking into account that thousands of people who are tired from loss of confidence Is not it better with a capital base that is operating, go schedule payment of capital and that the People can withdraw without any problems?
d) If it were to produce a positive finding in the U.S. and deliver the money order to the company Is there a plan already determined to put in balance available funds and profits to investors?. If so How much would last and that way it would develop the process of returning the money?
e) The announcement of October 12, between lines were seen to be held to pay all the capital and most of the gains reflected on the page "is assumed in advance that there will be missing?, Do not There is perhaps a surplus of money locked as you have mentioned?, Can not you work with money in Europe to guarantee full payment, even with the difference that occurs pay lawyers, possible fines and administrative expenses?

12.MISCELANEA

a) Expenditure incurred by way of the recent visits of DI and other guests to the meetings of Valencia and Switzerland were borne by the company or for them?
b) What reason is inviting people mentioned above, if the exception of a few, not massively transmitted information from the meetings?
c) How much is spent monthly in respect of payment of lawyers and administrative expenses?
d) There were accounts of people who made career plan and that were blocked last year by promoting other products Where is the equality if many of the great and renowned DI who helped expand the company also brought this practice when they started the difficulties of the company?
RECOMMENDATIONS
Show me an act of generosity by activating the accounts of the investors that they've blocked them, since many of them in the absence of information, erred in his criticism, sought where prohibited or published what they found out but with the hope of helping others. Assume that the lack of information leads to despair and that this absence is the responsibility of the company.

Searching the entire benefit and worthwhile, we recommend that investors whose capital amounts are below the 10,000 usd usd and up to 1000, when an activation of capital, this is the order of 1000 usd, so they can generate some decent returns and foremost, that can travel through the system and this activation occurs in two or more stages by date of registration

Two previous issues:
Aspect 1: Focusing more on the aspect of the current operation on earnings per share of investment, investors with large sums of investment that has enabled them percentages of capital, have been the most fortunate, because their money makes a return middle can move in the system, while the little freed a common investor, it would take months to get moving in the system as indicated

Issue 2: So you do not say officially because you can not or should, aim to be many who open brokerage accounts in the FX One

It is recommended then activate lowest rates for those with large capital, that this difference can activate basic capital (What is required by rule) to other investors, so that if there is a crowd that open their accounts in FX One; with it all without distinction as investors their investment amount, will be able to access some profitability while the U.S. is fixed, with this strategy, investors earn the tip and tip to get commissions, you earn wins FX One , win and win PFPLACE trade relations are maintained with the broker.

Using money from commissions that are accredited, including those that are accumulated on PM and have not been paid, to be greater than the release or return of capital, but this should generate a monthly report openly and transparently to say As is the total fees that are established as the capital amount of activations or returns.

Pay monthly with operating capital of FFX a fixed percentage of 5%, regardless of the amount invested and the remaining is used for capital asset or return

Following release while U.S. investors negotiate debt with earnings (no capital), through an open process that allows to shorten the time for resolving all, for example:

Table with respect to earnings before 1st June 2009

Amounts below $ 100,000, to cancel 30%
Quantities between 99,999 and $ 90,000, terminating the 40%
Quantities between 89,999 and $ 80,000 pay 50%
Quantities between 79,999 and $ 70,000, terminating the 60%
Amounts between 69,999 to 60,000 dollars, cancel the 70%
Amounts between 59,999 to 50,000 dollars, cancel the 75%
Amounts between 49,999 to 20,000 dollars, cancel the 80%
Lower amounts to 19,999 dollars, cancel the 90%

Once released as the U.S. and there is said to have a surplus, the difference converted into shares of the new projects with their respective securities.

While causes the release of CES, negotiate with investors who wish to do so voluntarily, debt capital, all this through an open and suggested inter-company investor, which allows to shorten the time for resolving it. The missing, convertible into shares of the new projects with their respective securities.

Make the management of the same law firm (to get stronger enthusiasm to win over the process) and with companies specializing in the subject, to make a purchase of debt or a kind of international factoring and / or figure that in these cases applies, in order to obtain liquidity in the shortest time possible and allow debts negotiate with investors.

If they can not produce a ruling within days by U.S. authorities to generate a massive return of capital, he should seek the proper way to especially those who have not been activated or whose capital amounts released do not exceed $ 10,000 to repay them under capital and a small percentage is assimilated from 1000 to $ 1500 to have some liquidity in December.
That the company conditional income or profits of investors for a month being used by 100% to recapitalize the company and be placed on the market for less risk and greater profitability that you deem most appropriate. In the next month will allow investors to withdraw income by 100% and without delay.

It requires oversight of investor protection in the forums because there are many complaints that deal with important topics that have not achieved satisfactory answers so far by the Department of Support.

Within the concept of oversight is recommended that this inspection and issue a report on:
Amount of money blocked
Escrow Fund
Custodial of Panama
Operating capital in Europe
State other assets
Holders of the blockades and lawsuits
Plan the strategy that develops
Amount of money invested in new projects
Amount of money used in payment of attorneys

The report must be clear, this requires that it should be published so that means you can not, such as signed data and media demands locks.

It is recommended that oversight is composed of a representative of the company and investors personnel (no more than 6 people) with a multifaceted profile, ie, that there have representatives of those that have criticized the company and its chairman, the who are unbelievers and those who rely most of which are investing millions, average and low, bear in mind they are representatives of different nationalities and continents; hopefully some accounting and legal experience.

It requires creating the figure of an official partner to respond to many other concerns because support this flawed, has no information at hand and their answers are often vague and evasive, or does not fit the reality of the facts.

It requires more numbers and contact names, eg. for the Department. Accounting, Compliance, etc..

For most markets are volatile, unstable and unpredictable, it is necessary to know clearly what plans we have for the release of funds and the general solution of the problem with very rough dates if possible, and if targets are met going giving the corresponding explanation, as in every endeavor.

The last recommendation is the possibility that the response to this extensive questionnaire, for an open to all investors via a conference online, or if technical means do not permit, at least you can make a formal interview it can be published in writing in order to increase confidence and backing of the majority and also rearrange the human route of the company, which has regrettably not been counted in the company with an appropriate department to deal with it .

Perhaps the answer to all these questions does not solve the problem of money that ultimately is more important for us investors, but at least it can help design a "roadmap" to begin getting the economic to the pair of investor relations -company. Perhaps not silenced dissenting voices towards you and the company, but allow at least those who remain in that plan, are isolated by themselves, because they would not be taken into account by others. To achieve these two aspects are required facts and honest communication and fluid.
Mr Germain Cardona Soler, perhaps the document was quite extensive and carefully prepared their responses should note that would have been shorter if the communication channels have operated smoothly in advance.
We know he has the will to fix the business problem that nobody wants to be in his shoes with such responsibility, and about 180,000 investors called in daily. Do not lock yourself in your problem more and believe that you are alone, this problem belongs to everyone, share it, but it is very difficult or as we say here, and do not get me wrong is very boar help!, If we continue to drift: silence, subliminal interpretations of speculative analysis among investors that feed them false expectations of fights raised in the forums and other means between those who believe and not believe in you and the company, etc..
While most will live in good times earnings, a situation that unfortunately can not say the last links with the company, also shelters us certain rights and duties. Rights, which at present are summarized in only be heard and our concerns and recommendations sincerely, as well as receive and without delay the remaining payments. Duties, to accompany the process of normalization of the company to accompany you and support your effort for the good of all and the duty to do all together.
Excuse our boldness, but unfortunately the computer can not only integrate the minority that you invited to the launch of the alliance with PFPLACE and FX One, many of which (respecting the excellent work of a few) only care about the economic benefit of continue to network and have forgotten their human responsibilities and humility to their networks. They do not recognize us as long as the leaders and interlocutors between the company and we can not be recognized as such who manipulates the information for personal profit and ends up not helping. Don Herman, the team we're all, you and your board are the team captain, but to get out of this impasse, it requires good communication and good instructions and guides.
The strategy to take the company forward, he can not be merely an economic strategy, requiring a strategy that links all parts of the company and the largest in this case, we are investors, for this requires a better deal to them and also put them openly and frankly in the story of taking this forward.

Sincerely,

FFX proactive SOLUTIONS
Organizing Committee

List of record sheet and investor support

City: ________________ Country: ___________________ Date :__________________
I, (name )____________________ (surname )___________________________________
Identified with (Number and type of dcto ):_____________________________________________
Investor in FFX No_____________________ ID from: __________________________
Mail :____________________ Contact Phone: _______________________________

SUBSCRIPTION AND SUPPORT RECORD
As a member of the "proactive in FFX solutions, with my signature support the development of the annexed document, to be presented to Mr. GERMAN CARDONA SOLER, founder of FFX, I record that it reflects the concerns I have and share with other investors, for which I helped its development by contributing ideas and opinions through e-enabled for that purpose or in effect, I bring my support only voluntary, identify with the requirements laid.
For these reasons, I respectfully request to Don Herman, I provide the answers to them, making use of the communication channel may consider appropriate.
My sole purpose is to take the responses to this document as an informative review of this year, analyze the situation and make my own decisions on personal, economic and what to do with my role as an investor of FFX, free any coercion that may be fear for the act of making this request in this way.
Apart from that described in the attached document, I ask include:
If you have nothing more to say put the word "Skip"

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sincerely;

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timor · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 21.12. 2008, 07:38 Prispevkov: 73

kolikor sem razumel iz tega pisma, so sama vpršanja na katere Cordona še ni dal odgovora. To, da naj bi se že do petka priključili tej skupini mi je pa že znan način iz FFX-a, ko smo kar naenkrat morali nekaj na hitro naredit preden bi začel razmišljati. V tem pismu nič ne piše, da bodo začeli postopek tožbe ali kaj podobnega. Treba je biti previden. Počakat bi morali na odgovore in šele takrat odreagirati. Če se bo skupina odločila za tožbo bo seveda še zadosti časa, da se takrat povežemo.
Če je vse to bilo splanirano, da nam na tako prefinjen način poberejo denar, potem ni izključena možnost, da je to skupino za reševanje FFX-a Cordona sam organiziral in tako dobil v kontrolo vse ovčke, ki bi same prišle v štalco.
Prvo počakat kakšen bo odgovor na ta vprašanja, ki jih ni malo !

mirosss1 · Objavljeno: 18 Nov 2009 22:45 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="timor"]kolikor sem razumel iz tega pisma, so sama vpršanja na katere Cordona še ni dal odgovora. To, da naj bi se že do petka priključili tej skupini mi je pa že znan način iz FFX-a, ko smo kar naenkrat morali nekaj na hitro naredit preden bi začel razmišljati. V tem pismu nič ne piše, da bodo začeli postopek tožbe ali kaj podobnega. Treba je biti previden. Počakat bi morali na odgovore in šele takrat odreagirati. Če se bo skupina odločila za tožbo bo seveda še zadosti časa, da se takrat povežemo.
Če je vse to bilo splanirano, da nam na tako prefinjen način poberejo denar, potem ni izključena možnost, da je to skupino za reševanje FFX-a Cordona sam organiziral in tako dobil v kontrolo vse ovčke, ki bi same prišle v štalco.
Prvo počakat kakšen bo odgovor na ta vprašanja, ki jih ni malo ![/quote]
Se strinjam,mojster manipulacije je vsega zmožen :?: :idea: :?: :idea:

REGICA · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 15.06. 2009, 12:32 Prispevkov: 10

[quote="mirosss1"][quote="timor"]kolikor sem razumel iz tega pisma, so sama vpršanja na katere Cordona še ni dal odgovora. To, da naj bi se že do petka priključili tej skupini mi je pa že znan način iz FFX-a, ko smo kar naenkrat morali nekaj na hitro naredit preden bi začel razmišljati. V tem pismu nič ne piše, da bodo začeli postopek tožbe ali kaj podobnega. Treba je biti previden. Počakat bi morali na odgovore in šele takrat odreagirati. Če se bo skupina odločila za tožbo bo seveda še zadosti časa, da se takrat povežemo.
Če je vse to bilo splanirano, da nam na tako prefinjen način poberejo denar, potem ni izključena možnost, da je to skupino za reševanje FFX-a Cordona sam organiziral in tako dobil v kontrolo vse ovčke, ki bi same prišle v štalco.
Prvo počakat kakšen bo odgovor na ta vprašanja, ki jih ni malo ![/quote]
Se strinjam,mojster manipulacije je vsega zmožen :?: :idea: :?: :idea:[/quote]

jest dvomim,da je bilo to vse splanirano,za vsem tem stoji Sebastian Medina Vargas(kot vem je on začel s to pobudo,da se ustanovi proactivosporsolucionesenffx@gmail.com)-osebno ga spremljam na tujem forumu že zelo dolgo -jest sem zato ,da se v čim večjem številu pridružimo tej skupini-sama že poslala, priporočam,da naredite to tudi ostali(stvar odločitve je pa od vsakega posameznika).Podpiram,da se stvari prvo probajo urediti preko mediacije-dogovorov

periegetes · Objavljeno: 18 Nov 2009 23:28 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="timor"]kolikor sem razumel iz tega pisma, so sama vpršanja na katere Cordona še ni dal odgovora. To, da naj bi se že do petka priključili tej skupini mi je pa že znan način iz FFX-a, ko smo kar naenkrat morali nekaj na hitro naredit preden bi začel razmišljati. V tem pismu nič ne piše, da bodo začeli postopek tožbe ali kaj podobnega. Treba je biti previden. Počakat bi morali na odgovore in šele takrat odreagirati. Če se bo skupina odločila za tožbo bo seveda še zadosti časa, da se takrat povežemo.
Če je vse to bilo splanirano, da nam na tako prefinjen način poberejo denar, potem ni izključena možnost, da je to skupino za reševanje FFX-a Cordona sam organiziral in tako dobil v kontrolo vse ovčke, ki bi same prišle v štalco.
Prvo počakat kakšen bo odgovor na ta vprašanja, ki jih ni malo ![/quote]

Do petka, 20.11. bi naj poslali podpisano podporo/vprašalnik na ta naslov skupine, ki se zavzema za proaktivno rešitev FFXa. Za njo stoji Sebastian iz Kolumbije, ki je med najbolj aktivnimi in verodostojnimi forumaši na amigosdeffx... Zakaj je bil zbran ravno 20.11. oz. zakaj tako malo časa, ne vem. Mislim, da v tem primeru ni potreben takšen dvom glede te skupine, kot si ga izrazil ...

mirosss1 · Objavljeno: 19 Nov 2009 08:57 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="periegetes"][quote="timor"]kolikor sem razumel iz tega pisma, so sama vpršanja na katere Cordona še ni dal odgovora. To, da naj bi se že do petka priključili tej skupini mi je pa že znan način iz FFX-a, ko smo kar naenkrat morali nekaj na hitro naredit preden bi začel razmišljati. V tem pismu nič ne piše, da bodo začeli postopek tožbe ali kaj podobnega. Treba je biti previden. Počakat bi morali na odgovore in šele takrat odreagirati. Če se bo skupina odločila za tožbo bo seveda še zadosti časa, da se takrat povežemo.
Če je vse to bilo splanirano, da nam na tako prefinjen način poberejo denar, potem ni izključena možnost, da je to skupino za reševanje FFX-a Cordona sam organiziral in tako dobil v kontrolo vse ovčke, ki bi same prišle v štalco.
Prvo počakat kakšen bo odgovor na ta vprašanja, ki jih ni malo ![/quote]

Do petka, 20.11. bi naj poslali podpisano podporo/vprašalnik na ta naslov skupine, ki se zavzema za proaktivno rešitev FFXa. Za njo stoji Sebastian iz Kolumbije, ki je med najbolj aktivnimi in verodostojnimi forumaši na amigosdeffx... Zakaj je bil zbran ravno 20.11. oz. zakaj tako malo časa, ne vem. Mislim, da v tem primeru ni potreben takšen dvom glede te skupine, kot si ga izrazil ...[/quote]
Ampak ta datum nekako sovpada z odgovorom,da bi se naj v soboto
zgodilo veliko presenečenje,mene zelo moti hitrost z katero se je treba
prijaviti, vas na kaj spominja,mene že :!: :?: :!:
Zato po pameti,sicer pa dokler nismo organizirani, odloča vsak sam...
Upajmo na najboljše :roll: :roll:

branik · Objavljeno: 19 Nov 2009 09:12 Naslov sporočila:

Tu bi se jaz strinjal z mirosssem....nekak je to na brzino....

REGICA · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 15.06. 2009, 12:32 Prispevkov: 10

[quote="branik"]Tu bi se jaz strinjal z mirosssem....nekak je to na brzino....[/quote]

Čas je denar-res je na brzino-predvidevam ,da je to povezano z broker hišo forexone(pričakujejo nakazilo 200 M eur konec novembra in 100 000-140 000 investirorjev) si preberite na strani od forexone pod news-to smo pa lahko samo mi ffx -predvidevam,da hoče sebastian v tem primeru nekaj istržiti v dobro investitorjrv in res nima veliko časa(moje predvidevanje)[quote][/quote]

orka · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 06.10. 2009, 18:23 Prispevkov: 49

pa ne razumem kaj se sedaj organizirate v neke forme za reševanje ne našega ampak cardoninega problema toliko časa dokler se ne bo nad nekom iz vrha fizično obračunal ne bomo nič doegel in zakaj lahko pri nas imran ševedno mirno po primorski špancira??? pa počmo že enga tega vrabca potem nas bodo pa resno jemal

bogdang · NOVI član Pridružen/-a: 07.04. 2009, 20:34 Prispevkov: 9

Ali lahko greste na ffx stran s tistim geslom ko ste ga imeli doslej.
Jaz nisem mogel, vendar so mi hitro poslali novo geslo. ali se vam to dogaja.

greece · Objavljeno: 19 Nov 2009 13:35 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="bogdang"]Ali lahko greste na ffx stran s tistim geslom ko ste ga imeli doslej.
Jaz nisem mogel, vendar so mi hitro poslali novo geslo. ali se vam to dogaja.[/quote]

Men je šlo OK...

Drobizek · Objavljeno: 19 Nov 2009 13:41 Naslov sporočila:

pri meni dela čist normalno

uhan1 · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 12.01. 2009, 14:16 Prispevkov: 16

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