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Marc

Ali mi lahko kdo razlozi zakaj je ponehala evforija in veselje?

rintintinc · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 30.11. 2008, 02:12 Prispevkov: 39

[quote="Marc"]Ali mi lahko kdo razlozi zakaj je ponehala evforija in veselje?[/quote]

Precej preprosto je vse skupaj. 1) Iz srečanja vodstva FFX in sponzorjev pride novica, da je FFX 'zmagal' v sodnem postopku zamrznitve denarnih sredstev v Združenih državah, do konca oktobra naj bi bil ta denar na razpolago, vsi boste dobili izplačila, juhehek! Evforija, veselje. 2) Iz konference PFPlace (menda) pride nova novica, prav tako od enega vodilnih mož FFXa, da sredstva niso oz. ne bodo še tako zelo hitro na razpolago, brez konkretnih dodatnih pojasnil kaj, zakaj in kako. Jok, žalost, depresija.

Ni tako težko razumet, če si zadnje leto spremljal stanje. Stara igra korenčka in palice.

riba22 · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 29.04. 2009, 13:57 Prispevkov: 38

Info sa FFX foruma 03.10.09:
Tienen alguna fecha de cuando liberaran los capitales retenidos.., he preguntado varias veces pero nadie me dice nada...
(Kada imate sredstva release date održana .., pitala sam nekoliko puta, ali nitko ne govori mi ništa ...)

- En E.E.U.U., no se puede retener un dinero legalmente por más de un año, estamos a la espera de este mes o el que viene para saber algo más concreto.
- Gracias por contactar con FFx.
(- U SAD-u, te se ne može pravno zadržati novac za više od godinu dana, možemo dočekati ovaj ili sljedeći mjesec da vidi nešto konkretnije.
- Hvala vam za kontaktiranje FFX.)

SMRK · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 12.02. 2009, 09:10 Prispevkov: 90

ja to sem tudi jaz zasledil na forumu, ampak zanima me zakaj ni nobene uradne verzije oz. zapisnika tega sestanka ker se mi zdi da je vsak napisal malo po svoje

bassdrum

[quote="SMRK"]ja to sem tudi jaz zasledil na forumu, ampak zanima me zakaj ni nobene uradne verzije oz. zapisnika tega sestanka ker se mi zdi da je vsak napisal malo po svoje[/quote]

Nimajo tajnika :o
Sicer pa, tako kot je to preneslo tistih par ljudi, ki so bili v Španiji, tako je tu napisano, in tudi po vseh ostalih forumih. Uradna verzija bi bila, če bi zapisnik naredil tajnik od Cardone ali pa on sam.

Remember

Še dobro da smo kaj zvedeli, če bi vedel da bodo tako ravnali z investitorji nebi vložil niti cetna.

SMRK · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 12.02. 2009, 09:10 Prispevkov: 90

obnašajo se kot da bi bili v kamneni dobi :evil: . sej bi še kej reku pa je brez veze ker je bilo veliko že napisanega iz strani ffx , narejenega pa nič !! GROZA !!

periegetes

Iz španskega foruma: http://soloamigosdeffx.ning.com/forum/topics/lo-que-todos-quieren-saber

The following text corresponds to formulations that some investors have sent me via e-mail and I leave them here for discussion:

Hello Buster, Cordial Saludo.

Dear friend thanks for your information. We in fact at a time of uncertainty about the lack of precise information on the release of funds held in USA. At this time truly what matters most to all investors is the release of the money withheld.

We had been informed that we had checked in at the very large to migrate to a new business and recover funds held, all hoped that with the start of the new brokerage activities we were going to put capital asset, but so far there is no official record that will be the case. We know that on 15 October o16 will officially launch in Zurich broker but none of those invited to Valencia or Barcelona has to be referred to activate a percentage of funds retained to start each one with a new brokerage account .

I hope to be just like you said and that this information is being saved for the launch day in Zurich and to have ordered Valencia guests to remain silent in this regard and the big news in Zurich. About the new broker has announced that it would merge with Spanish businessmen and they would have by year's end over 90,000 accounts. I imagine that this projection is due to customers of FFX. And FFX's customers beginning in the new broker with active accounts must be activated to a large number of investors a percentage of capital held. No mention of the 180,000 customers of FFX. I think it is because the minimum investment amount is 2,000 euros and a vast majority of investors still do not have is much happening and go as you select the entire capital, who have withheld that amount and those that amount is less than I imagine it will be given some special treatment and must wait a little longer.

I think the launch of the new company should also be capitalizing on the company by selling shares. This could help to turn a percentage of funds retained in the new broker.

On the other hand I also think what the company always has said and that is not mentioned and is nearly as Don Germain said the company is able to account for funds held but not recovered blocked from the U.S. capital. Remember that Don Germain at the conference in February that the company had an investment in real estate project that would support liquid were made when 80% of the capital of investors and gold 20%. In addition the company also said it had investments in high-return investments in Europe that were settled each year.

Gold corresponds to 20% of retained capital. The U.S. government should return it directly to the company after the ruling. the sale of gold at this time must represent a higher percentage of 20% of capital and retained this capital should be used in the activation of a percentage of capital.

By this time the company must have liquidity of real estate and high yield investments in Europe and as it is reaching 100% of the liquidity of these investments should be activating retained capital to investors in the new broker. We know about these kinds of investments should not speak publicly because they are banking secrets and should be handled under absolute discretion and therefore the lack of information on this issue and is awaiting the appropriate time when there is a danger that this news is public knowledge.

I think the company is awaiting the ruling of the judges of USA to be sure if he will return the money directly to the company or on the contrary the authorities decide to delay the release to deliver the funds to each investor. In accordance with the laws required to handle this last point is very remote but nevertheless they consider it. Once you know the decision the company will decide what should be the best way to handle the process for the welfare of all. Imagine if the company with his return the retained capital gains at all and as many would withdraw their investments and then leaves the U.S. government that it will only give the money to each investor individually form so if the real problem because it would be easy handle this situation. It is therefore reasonable to expect that the company is given the U.S. failure to know what the next step.

I think all the people who attended Valencia know the whole truth and are therefore encouraged to do their jobs and are calming to their networks by giving inside information to move forward and seize this opening the project to ensure grids and leveraging on others, although this is a selfish way of working because most discouraged leave without knowing what is happening without knowing what to expect and not daring to continue working because of lack of credibility in the company while it has all the information and thus have absolute credibility and can transmit it to the group and grow profitably over the other leaders. And these privileged owners of the information then leave saying they are true leaders that if they believed and supported the company at all times.

The company has always been saying that normalization would occur in the shortest possible time and ahead of schedule. Don Germain in an audio investors from Mexico I can report that in November the company should be standardized. In support when it was reported that the FFX not fail us and we would have a happy Christmas. And all that we hoped to launch would Pfplace concrete news on the situation and standardization of the company. and we are surprised that in Valencia assistant news inform us that dilate the recovery of funds held.

I agree that the privilege is given to large networks whom they consider deserving but not to continue with the usual uncertainty because they make us feel that we have been deceived and taken advantage of our nobility.

At this time of uncertainty do not know whether Mr. Germain was referring to the normalization that was working on was solely the project of offering companies are complying with all legal aspects for the operation in any international investment portfolio. Or if referred to the full recovery of all funds of investors and business.

The first project has already achieved a social network that advertises a range of paid advertising company that those involved in the network, initially a broker who offers his services to investors from FFX and many more, a payment company PM by whereby you will be making interbank payments and transfers, is expected when running in Europe to operate smoothly.

I believe and hope that the normalization of the company must be both described above because I believe that the directors of the company began a project of such immense magnitude with problems knowing that this would harm the company. So I think we should wait Forexone launched in Zurich on 15th of this month and the result of the failure of judges in USA and good faith and honesty of Mr. Germain Cardona and her good heart to give us an official statement of FFX projects and new project

branik

PRESTAVLJENO.....

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orka
Učim se o FOREX-u...

Pridružen/-a: 06.10. 2009, 17:23
Prispevkov: 6

pa dejmo se enkrat vzet že v roke pa se zorganizirat in stopit osebno do 4 glavnih slovencov in zahtevat denar nazaj, dost je bilo nategovanja in praznih obljub. Nasi so iz sestanka prinesli novice, da bodo do 16 oktobra naložili denar na naše kartice, sredi novembra dragi moji, sredi novembra pa bo POZOR: VES DENAR NA NAŠIH RAČUNIH BLOKIRAN+SPROŠČENI DEL POSTAL RAZPOLOŽLJIV OZIROMA PO DOMAČE POVEDANO GA BOMO VSI INVESTITORJI LAHKO HITRO DVIGNILI, ker ima vsak tudi tisti z močnim potrpljenje ffx in vseh z njimi povezanimi akterji pouhen k.... Briga me ali je bilo trgovanje ali ne, denar hočem nazaj in z vso pravico ga lahko zahtevam, če bo treba tudi preko slo vodilnih mož, še enkrat pozivam vse, da temu naredimo konec, preveč smo pretrpeli in se preživcirali za ta pof.... finanzas prazne obljube. Pa še drugače vas bom vprašal: se vam zdi prav da se Imran vozi z novim dragim avtomobilom ki smo ga mu placali m, ali pa da D. Korošec ljudi nateguje že z nekim supre duper novim produktom (on tako ali tako enkrat prodaja lonce, drugič tablete, pa potem energijske napitke, potem se vrze v finance, pa tablete za gorivo pa zopet finance. Da ne omenjam B. Korošca, ki je bil prisoten na sestanku v Madridu, ljudem pa se mirno zlaže da bo kot sem že omenil denar na razpolago do sredi novembra. Potem je tu še vrsa takih in drugačnih kaveljcev, ki so si z NAŠIM DENARJEM izboljšali živ. položaj do konca življenja in se jim sedaj jebe kaj bo z denarjem v ffx...malo razmislite koliko živcev nam je uničil ffx

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Drobizek
Finančni svetovalec

Pridružen/-a: 09.02. 2009, 18:45
Prispevkov: 129
Kraj: Ljubljana

saj to gre tudi men na jetra, iz sestanka so prišli in je bilo vse jasno, točni datumi so bili dani, in pisalo se je da je denar ŽE odblokiran, zdaj se pa piše da bo mogoče 31.10. odblokiran. saj lohk zdej vsak reče da smo to že navajeni, ampak ni to to. če so dobili na sestanku vsi skupaj take informacije, potem naj bo to tudi res, ne pa da zdaj vse drugače izgleda. so pa iste informacije prihajale iz vseh koncev, ne samo od naših liderjev

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orka
Učim se o FOREX-u...

Pridružen/-a: 06.10. 2009, 17:23
Prispevkov: 5

mene drugi ne brigajo, mene zanimajo naši, ki so na račun našega denarja prejeli od par slo jurjev navzgor provizij in jim sedaj fučka kaj bo z denarjem. In ne pozabte da smo podpisali pogodbo v kateri res da piše da prevzemamo tveganje in lalalalal tako naprej piše pa tudi, da bo šlo za dejansko trgovanje z valutami in ne neko nategancijo kjer je denar prehajal samo med prvimi v strukturi. Ker so nas nategnil tudi za nas pogodba ne velja, vse je na nas da fizično pristopimo ne do naših sponzorjev pač pa do štirih slovencev, no imran ni ampak vseeno pa izterjamo denar nazaj

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posrednik
Inštruktor za finance

Pridružen/-a: 04.01. 2009, 21:16
Prispevkov: 249

orka je napisal/a:
pa dejmo se enkrat vzet že v roke pa se zorganizirat in stopit osebno do 4 glavnih slovencov in zahtevat denar nazaj, dost je bilo nategovanja in praznih obljub. Nasi so iz sestanka prinesli novice, da bodo do 16 oktobra naložili denar na naše kartice, sredi novembra dragi moji, sredi novembra pa bo POZOR: VES DENAR NA NAŠIH RAČUNIH BLOKIRAN+SPROŠČENI DEL POSTAL RAZPOLOŽLJIV OZIROMA PO DOMAČE POVEDANO GA BOMO VSI INVESTITORJI LAHKO HITRO DVIGNILI, ker ima vsak tudi tisti z močnim potrpljenje ffx in vseh z njimi povezanimi akterji pouhen k.... Briga me ali je bilo trgovanje ali ne, denar hočem nazaj in z vso pravico ga lahko zahtevam, če bo treba tudi preko slo vodilnih mož, še enkrat pozivam vse, da temu naredimo konec, preveč smo pretrpeli in se preživcirali za ta pof.... finanzas prazne obljube. Pa še drugače vas bom vprašal: se vam zdi prav da se Imran vozi z novim dragim avtomobilom ki smo ga mu placali m, ali pa da D. Korošec ljudi nateguje že z nekim supre duper novim produktom (on tako ali tako enkrat prodaja lonce, drugič tablete, pa potem energijske napitke, potem se vrze v finance, pa tablete za gorivo pa zopet finance. Da ne omenjam B. Korošca, ki je bil prisoten na sestanku v Madridu, ljudem pa se mirno zlaže da bo kot sem že omenil denar na razpolago do sredi novembra. Potem je tu še vrsa takih in drugačnih kaveljcev, ki so si z NAŠIM DENARJEM izboljšali živ. položaj do konca življenja in se jim sedaj jebe kaj bo z denarjem v ffx...malo razmislite koliko živcev nam je uničil ffx

......Sorry "orka" ampak tale tvoj post je pa k uni mali pudli k se zaganjajo pa lajajo na vse,....razlog--STRAH,......in če te je strah, da boš izgubil investiran denar, preprosto pomeni, da si bil naiven, in neumen, ko si se spuščal v to investicijo,.....Če je bilo prvo( da si bil naiven), zakaj nisi še vedno???bi ti požrlo manj živcev,....če pa si bil neumen,...ti pa povem, ko berem tvoj post,....da si še vedno,....ker to tvoje pisanje je čisto neprimerno za na ta forum,....in vem, da na tak način ne boš dosegel/dobil niti 1$,....
......Sorry ssem se spustil na tvoj nivo,....da boš lažje razumel,....

.....Admin,....vem, da tudi moj post ne spada sem gor,....vem pa tudi da si "orka" zasluži ta komentar,......vesel bom, če pustiš ta post gor tok časa da ga bo imel "orka" priložnost prebrat,,....potem pa zbrišeš VSE SKUPAJ,....in ohranimo forum na nivoju kot je doslej SVAKA ČAST

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mirosss1

Ja končno nekaj uradnega z strani FFx-a,ampak napisano je pa spet
tako, čisto v njihovem stilu(upamo, mogoče,povrnili vlaganja,eventualno
nekaj donosov in podobna jajca),me res zanima kaj nam še pripravljajo...
Upajmo na najboljše...

BIZNIS

jest vem da takim negativcem kot ste tukaj nebi dal čisto nič ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

uros.juznic

[quote="BIZNIS"]jest vem da takim negativcem kot ste tukaj nebi dal čisto nič ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

bravo BIZNIS!!! res je, mislim, ponavljam že 150-krat povedano, ZAKAJ STE SPLOH NA FORUMU???

pejte cuzat kisle kumarce kam drugam!!!! :x

majamartin · NOVI član Pridružen/-a: 30.03. 2009, 18:31 Prispevkov: 5

[quote="uros.juznic"][quote="BIZNIS"]jest vem da takim negativcem kot ste tukaj nebi dal čisto nič ????? :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

bravo BIZNIS!!! res je, mislim, ponavljam že 150-krat povedano, ZAKAJ STE SPLOH NA FORUMU???

pejte cuzat kisle kumarce kam drugam!!!! :x[/quote]

Jaz pa vseeno mislim, da je bilo že MOČNO preveč nategovanja s strani famoznega FFXa, tako da so ljudje več kot upravičeno razburjeni; katastrofa na kubik, ker lažejo kot p__sci!!!

koco007 · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 05.02. 2009, 16:18 Prispevkov: 60

popoldne me pokliče sponzor pa bo povedal kaj je na temu res in kaj ni,oziroma kako si interpretirat njihovo sporočilo!

LP

rintintinc · Začetnik Pridružen/-a: 30.11. 2008, 02:12 Prispevkov: 39

Jaz bi vas, vrle pozitivce, vprašal samo nekaj. Ne gre za provokacijo, dejansko me zanima. Kdaj približno se lahko od vas pričakuje, da boste takorekoč vrgli puško v koruzo in se pridružili 'upornikom'? Recimo, da zdej do konc leta zadeva spet pade v vodo. Ne dobimo niti centa na kartice, ki jih nekateri itak čakamo že več kot pol leta, na račune tudi ne. Cardona & prijatelji se začnejo sklicevat - jasno, saj so to po svoje že naznanili - na famozni sodni postopek v ZDA, ki ni še končan, bla bla bla ... Okej, se počaka še tri mesece, ajde, se počaka še pol leta. Še vedno nič, spet samo prazne obljube. Kaj potem? Resno, koliko časa ste še pripravljeni čakati?

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