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mirosss1 · Objavljeno: 24 Sep 2009 07:35 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="branik"]Buenas noches!

Como ustedes saben me gusta investigar y hasta donde he averiguado, la posible causa por la cual no ha habido acreditación de capitales durante la segunda quincena de agosto es porque en la empresa le van a dar prioridad a la carga de dinero a las tarjetas; me explico, como bien saben, hasta inicios de este mes de las aproximadamente 4000 tarjetas llegadas a usuarios, sólo un porcentaje mínimo de personas estaba haciendo uso de ellas y en cantidades pequeñas de retiro de dinero. Los que estaban retirando el cupo total de los 8000 dólares durante el mes eran pocos; pero con la noticia de que los que tenían tarjeta, podían ayudar a los que no la tienen, pero que si tienen ganancias acumuladas en PM de dinero totalmente operativo, entonces el volumen de recarga de dinero a las tarjetas aumentó este mes. Siendo así las cosas, en este momento la compañía ha de tener el GRAN RETO de volver líquido el dinero que una gran cantidad de personas hemos pedido a través de las tarjetas, y por ello don Germán ha visto como prioridad el emplear buena parte del dinero ganado en este lapso, para que la gente pueda hacer sus retiros si problemas; retiros que bien podrían empezar a realizarse en los últimos 5 días del mes, con base a como sucedió en el mes de julio.

De ser verdad esta decisión de las directivas, no debe tomarse como algo malo, pues se estaría buscando que el dinero deje de ser tan virtual y se convierta en dinero físico, y no seguir en el mismo círculo vicioso de que la totalidad de lo que se vaya recuperando se siga dejando como virtual en las liberaciones quincenales, pues esto aumenta aun mas las obligaciones de la compañía hacia los inversores. Quizás esto no signifique que no se vayan a liberar capitales para los inversionistas que siguen en el turno de liberación, pero imagino han de estar haciendo cuentas de cuanto es el total que en definitiva van a pagar por tarjeta según las solicitudes y cuando esto suceda, el excedente es lo que podrían liberar a quienes corresponde; sin embargo, esto último si es análisis personal mio.

Como para hacerse una idea de lo que podría estar pasando, este es mi cálculo de las cosas, pero repito es personal y especulativo, sólo se puede tomar en cuenta como análisis:

Tarjetas WE enviadas 1000
Tarjetas Altair segundo grupo: 3000, de éstas se calculan unas 300 que no llegaron a sus destinos, según han posteado personas que aun las esperan.
Tarjetas Altair que presuntamente han llegado del 4o grupo a personas especialmente en España 200 (Si es verdad lo que han posteado en los foros quienes dicen haberlas recibido)

Si de pronto ya se arregló el problema de operatividad de las tarjetas de WE, estaríamos hablando de aproximadamente 3900 tarjetas operativas, de aquí se puede calcular un 30% de personas que no hayan querido ayudar a otros a retirar con sus tarjetas, sea porque no conocen a nadie que lo requiera o porque de todos modos sean desconfiados, o piensen que esto generaría problemas o no sepan que si se puede hacer esto, lo cual dejaría 1170 tarjetas por fuera de los retiros y aproximadamente 2730 operando, en un promedio de 6000 dólares por tarjeta (no se coloca los 8000 calculando que no todas hayan sido cargadas con el tope). Esto arrojaría aproximadamente 16´380.000 de dólares, suma que sería muy superior a los aproximadamente 3 millones de dólares que se calcula habrían retirado por tarjeta el mes anterior, una cantidad mínima de inversores que estaban haciendo uso de la tarjeta.

Con base al anterior cálculo especulativo, si tendría lógica el que una gran parte de dinero de las liberaciones de esta quincena de agosto, se empleen para pagar los retiros por tarjeta, y repito, sería una BUENA DECISIÓN de los directivos de la empresa, ya que no todo sería tan virtual, además sería un claro indicio de la intención de la empresa de ir arreglando todo al paso de cómo se van desarrollando los acontecimientos. Lo importante es que si son estas las razones, se vean reflejadas en que quienes cargaron las tarjetas, unos con dineros propios y otros ayudando a terceros inversores, puedan hacer los retiros sin problemas, y que al menos se libere un porcentaje así sea bajo a quienes les corresponda el turno, para que sean muchos mas los que puedan hacer uso de la tarjeta, así sea por intermedio de sus compañeros de red, ya que en realidad se trata de dinero operativo y que ha pasado por todos los rigurosos controles existentes.

Adelante y mucha fuerza
.............................................................
(prevod Mr.Google)

Lahko noč!

Kot veste, mi je všeč, da razišče in kolikor sem ugotovila možen razlog, zakaj ni bilo akreditacije kapitala v drugi polovici avgusta, saj družba bo imel prednost obremenitev denarja kartice, sem pomeni, kot veste, dokler se v začetku tega meseca kartice doseže približno 4.000 uporabnikov, le majhen odstotek ljudi je bilo njihovo uporabo in v majhnih količinah odstopa od pogodbe. Tisti, ki so bili odstranitev skupni kvoti $ 8000 za mesec je bilo malo, vendar z novico, da bi lahko te kartice pomagati tistim, ki ne, če pa imate plače v PM denarja v celoti operativne, Nato se je obseg napajanja kartice, denar, ki ta mesec. To pa zato, v tem času podjetje mora imeti velik izziv tekočine denar nazaj veliko ljudi, ki so zaprosili preko kartice, in tako Don Germain je bila prednostna naloga, da zaposlujejo veliko denarja živine v tem času, tako da ljudje lahko dajo svoje umike, če probleme, bi bilo dobro začeti umik potekal v zadnjih 5 dni v mesecu, ki temeljijo na kot se je zgodilo v juliju.

Če je res, ta odločitev direktiv ne smemo jemati kot slabo stvar, saj bi morali iskati, da se denar ne bo več kot virtualni denar in postanejo fizični, in ne nadaljevati v isti začaran krog, ki celoto, kar korak naprej in pustiti vračilo virtualnih dvotedniku za javnost, kot je to še dodatno povečuje obveznosti družbe za vlagatelje. Morda to ne pomeni, da ne bo sprostil sredstva za vlagatelje, ki so v zameno za javnost, ampak predstavljam si, da mora biti tem računu, kar je skupno, ki bo na koncu plačati za aplikacije, kreditne kartice, če in ko ga ne, presežek je tisto, kar bi brez tistih, ki ustreza, kljub temu, če je ta moja osebna analiza.

Kako dobiti idejo, kaj bi lahko dogaja, to je moja ocena stvari, pa še to je osebno in špekulativno, lahko samo upoštevajo kot analize:

Kartice poslal WE 1000
Altair kartice drugo skupino: 3000, so izračunani približno 300, ki ni dosegla svojega cilja, saj ljudje, ki so napoteni tudi pričakujejo.
Altair kartice naj bi prišli od 4. do skupine ljudi, še posebej v Španiji, 200 (če je res, kar so objavljeni na forumih, ki pravijo prejema)

Če je nenadoma problem fiksne in operativne zmogljivosti kartic WE, 3900 bi bilo govoriti o delovnih kartic, zato lahko izračunamo 30% ljudi, ki niso želeli pomagati drugim, da umaknejo svoje kartice, bodisi zato, ker kdorkoli ve, da jo potrebuje vseeno, ali ker so sumljive, ali mislite, da bi to ustvarilo težave ali ne vem, če se to lahko stori, kar bi pustila kartice iz 1170 in umikov, ki delujejo na približno 2730 povprečno 6000 dolarjev na kartico (ne dajo 8000 kipec, ki niso bili vsi naloženi z zgornjo mejo). To bi znašala približno 16'380 ,000 dolarjev, vsoto, ki bi bila precej višja od približno $ 3 milijone ocenjen na kartico, bi ga zadržali v prejšnjem mesecu, minimalno število vlagateljev, ki so bili z uporabo kartice.

Na podlagi prejšnjih špekulativni izračun, če bi logika, ki imajo veliko denarja za sprostitev tega dva tedna v avgustu, se uporabljajo za plačilo umikov na kartico, in ponavljam, bi bilo dobro odločitev direktorjev družbe, saj ni vse, da bi bila tako virtualno, kot tudi jasna navedba o nameri, da začne družba postaja vse korak, kako so v razvoju dogodkov. Važno je, da če so razlogi, ki se odraža v tistih, ki izvajajo kartice, nekateri s svojim lastnim denarjem in s pomočjo drugih vlagateljev, lahko umik brez težav, in vsaj odstotek, to po sprostitev kdo bi pa je, da bo veliko več ljudi lahko uporabi kartice, bodisi s svojimi sošolci, ker v resnici deluje denar in je šel skozi vse strog nadzor v mestu.

Adelante Mucha fuerza y[/quote]
Naj nekdo,ki zna, strne to v nekaj stavkov in da na forum :!: :?:

Drobizek · Objavljeno: 24 Sep 2009 16:10 Naslov sporočila:

k to berem, se počutim k da sem nepismen

koco007 · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 05.02. 2009, 16:18 Prispevkov: 60

Sej včasih je bolš,da človk kakšne stvari ne razume,se manj živcira!

LP

periegetes · Objavljeno: 24 Sep 2009 18:17 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="koco007"]Sej včasih je bolš,da človk kakšne stvari ne razume,se manj živcira!

LP[/quote]

koco, nisi več optimist?? :shock:

že pred časom sem napisal, naj se copy/paste še angleški prevod, ker je google prevod iz španščine v slovenščino pač neberljiv ...

periegetes · Objavljeno: 24 Sep 2009 19:48 Naslov sporočila:

Na Invertired:[url]http://www.invertired.com/group_discussion_view.php?group_id=79&grouptopic_id=4487[/url]

[quote][size=13]REPORT TAKEN FROM THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF SPECULATIONS COLLECTS FROM ALL OTHER FORUMS AND OF COURSE NOT OFFICIAL INFORMATION OF THE COMPANY, SO YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SEE HER AND SOME ARE ALSO IN THE COMMITS

The new company was doing everything that is going to split into three companies, each dedicated to their craft with a distribution of functions.

-1. The first and PFPLACE we already know is an established company as a social network of friends (like facebook, H5), in which van to provide guidelines about BROKERS (do not know if the company is outsourcing or contract) that provides customers that connect there investments in the forex market or we will not be us directly and another company promoting INVESTING in real estate or real estate commodities.

-2. Friends are invited to PFPLCE social network and contacts and friend who registers with the broker, open an account directly with the broker, a fully regulated company in Europe and is already doing the paperwork with the government of Colombia, Mexico , Argentina and Brazil, the creation of a bureau or a representative office with physical offices in these countries. This broker and investment company in real estate PFPLCE going to pay a fee for advertising and publicity PFPLACE divided this among people who are bringing people up to 10 levels deep and very likely will give a% Broker performance this REGULATED will be very similar to what we are currently receiving.

-3. There will be commissions on investment because that was beyond the law, because information is not legal what are the investments of clients, the broker will qualify customers with letters as investment grade example ... the investor between 1000 and 3000 dollars will be type A and so on and publicist on the link you'll know how many investors have type A, B, C ... etc. and each will represent an amount X that you will pay PFPLACE at Pacific Mutual.

-4. The third company is Pacific Mutual, which will be responsible for the movement of money and in three or four months ahead will be the ability to issue MasterCard cards just like the ones we are sending high.

-5. All of us have registered in FFX PFPLACE be registered because we will all have a joint account at the head of the company FFX with monies of all investors who have money in operational FFX and FFX will stay as long as we have the funds held as they are released and are passed to the broker, the new van to send the contract and required by law to ask, but we're going to go old disaggregating capital in order of highest to lowest and passes the money to your account, you will have an active account and must attach documents. With minimum time.

-6. Activation of capital: The lawyers are optimistic because they gave the media required by the authorities and ascertained that the liabilities that the company has is equal to the funds held is no loss of capital, both reserve money and the silver investors is complete. Before the end of the year we will have released at least 50% of our capital, can also make a conditional release of funds.

As noted In the header, this corresponds to A COMPENDIUM OF SPECULATIONS DRAWN FROM VARIOUS FORUMS AND CONSULTATION FREE ACCESS TO INTERNET AND INFORMATION IS AT ALL "unofficial", SO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE OR IS COMMITTED TO THE COMPANY.[/size][/quote]

Slab internetni prevod (za pomoč tistim, ki ne razumejo angleško):

[size=9]POROČILO IZ ČUDOVITI SVETA ugibanj, zbranega na vseh drugih forumih, in seveda neuradnih informacij o družbi:

Novo podjetje dela vse, kar počne, da se bo razdelilo na tri družbe, vsaka s svojo funkcijo

-1. Prvi in PFPLACE smo že veste, je družba s sedežem v socialno mrežo prijateljev (kot so Facebook, H5), v katerem van da zagotovi smernice o BROKERS (ne vem, če podjetje outsourcing ali pogodbe), ki zagotavlja strankam, ki se priključujejo obstaja naložbe v Forex trg ali ne bomo neposredno na nas in druge družbe, s spodbujanjem vlaganjem v nepremičnine ali dejansko blago nepremičnin.

-2. Prijatelji so vabljeni, da PFPLCE socialno mrežo ter stikov in prijatelj, ki so registri s posrednikom, odprt račun neposredno s posrednikom, v celoti ureja družbe v Evropi in je že počne dokumentacijo z vlado Kolumbije, Mehike, Argentine in Brazilije, ustanovitev urada ali predstavništvo s telesnimi pisarne v teh državah. Ta posrednik družbe in naložbe v nepremičnine PFPLCE gre za plačilo pristojbine za oglaševanje in obveščanje javnosti PFPLACE razdeli med te ljudi, ki jih prinaša ljudem do 10 stopenj globoko in zelo verjetno bo uspešnost% Broker REGULIRANI to bo zelo podobna, kar smo trenutno prejemajo.

-3. Tam bodo provizije za investicije, ker da je bila zunaj prava, ker podatki niso pravno, kaj so naložbe strank, bo posrednik upravičeni odjemalci s črkami, kot naložbeni razred primer ... investitor med 1000 in 3000 dolarjev, bodo vrste in tako naprej in publicist na povezavo, boste vedeli, koliko vlagateljev tipa A, B, C ... itd in vsak bo predstavljal znesek, X, da boste plačali PFPLACE na Pacific Vzajemno.

-4. Tretja družba je Pacific Mutual, ki bo odgovorna za pretok denarja in v treh ali štirih mesecih bo sposobnost za izdajo MasterCard kartice, tako kot tiste smo pošiljanje visoka.

-5. Vsi nas že registrirani v FFX PFPLACE treba registrirati, ker bomo vsi imajo skupni račun na čelu družbe FFX z denarnimi vseh vlagateljev, ki imajo denar v operativnih FFX FFX in bo ostal tako dolgo, kot smo ugotoviti sredstev, kot so sprosti in se prenesejo na posrednika, nova van poslati pogodbo in zahteva zakon vprašati, ampak bomo iti razbijati stare kapitala, da od najvišjega do najnižjega in preide denar na svoj račun, boste morali aktivni račun in morajo priložiti dokumente. Pri minimalni čas.

-6. Aktiviranje kapitala: odvetniki so optimistične, saj so dali mediji ki jih zahtevajo organi, in ugotovila, da obveznosti, da družba, ki je enaka sredstva, ne izgube kapitala, tako rezervo denarja in srebro vlagateljev je končana. Pred koncem leta, bomo imeli izpust vsaj 50% našega kapitala lahko tudi pogojni izpust sredstev.

Kot je zapisano v naslovu, to ustreza zbirki špekulacije, ki izhajajo iz različnih forumov IN POSVETOVANJE prost dostop do interneta in informacij je popolnoma "neuradno", in NI ODGOVOREN ali povezan podjetju.[/size]

koco007 · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 05.02. 2009, 16:18 Prispevkov: 60

sem,sem in to 100%!
Do konca leta vas bo pa še več na strani optimizma.......

Lp

Drobizek · Objavljeno: 24 Sep 2009 21:01 Naslov sporočila:

periegetes, kje si pa to dobil, saj tukaj piše pa spet vse čisto drugače, kot je bilo do sedaj rečeno.......no saj so to samo špekulacije, tako kot vse ostalo, je pa zanimivo, mislim da od nekje pa mora nekaj priditi, da se lahko špekulira. me prou zanima kaj bo,.......

periegetes · Objavljeno: 25 Sep 2009 12:23 Naslov sporočila:

Malce slabša novička; razmišljanje bivšega španskega košarkaša, zdaj uspešnega blogerja, pisatelja, avtorja in investitorja Aitor Zarate-ja. V zadnji njegovi knjigi je omenjen tudi FFX kot scam...
Ali ve kaj več kot mi???
Nekaj več o njem kot vlagatelju:
[url]http://www.cincodias.com/articulo/Sentidos/ex-jugador-baloncesto-ha-hecho-rico-futuros/20070205cdscdicst_2/cds5se/[/url]

Vir Invertired: [url]http://www.invertired.com/group_discussion_view.php?group_id=79&grouptopic_id=4490[/url]

[quote][size=12]''Around the page number 130 Aitor Zárate talk about FFX.
Basically called "stupid" investors for being involved in a scam but more stupid to continue believing the excuses of "business" and not acknowledging reality.''

[/quote][/size]

branik · Objavljeno: 25 Sep 2009 12:27 Naslov sporočila:

Ubogi revček ...ne ve kako do denarja...napiši knjigo ,blog ...objavljaj sranje pljuvaj po vseh ...delaj se pametnega ....to gra v prodajo za med...

bla bla...

Drobizek · Objavljeno: 25 Sep 2009 16:31 Naslov sporočila:

[quote="branik"]Ubogi revček ...ne ve kako do denarja...napiši knjigo ,blog ...objavljaj sranje pljuvaj po vseh ...delaj se pametnega ....to gra v prodajo za med...

bla bla...[/quote]

llooollll hahaha

ti dam čisto prov

periegetes · Objavljeno: 27 Sep 2009 22:51 Naslov sporočila:

Komunike št. 120291217 s strani španske zveze za zaščito vlagateljev glede FFX...
Vir: [url]http://www.invertired.com/group_discussion_view.php?group_id=79&grouptopic_id=4510[/url]

Comunicado de ANIMDEX
Comunicado nº 120291217 26.9.2009

Within a month I'll be a year in which investors saw as Forex Finance stagnated capital income during this period we have seen the collapse of major financial groups including finance Maldof tycoon, who held an important role in Walls Street and others, creating a string of bankruptcies that has not yet expired.

From the National Association of Investors, contacts were maintained with the primary responsibility for Finance Mr German Cardona Soler Forex, which was obtained documents that were supposed veracity of the information previously provided on the Web somewhat ambiguous and opaque.

As of 30.5. 2009, noted that some partners received the entire income by bank transfer not able to make cash through credit cards that were ordered. In this situation it appeared that the statements of Mr German Cardona conformed to reality and that the release of the funds are to reality.

Unfortunately since 30/5/2009 not managed to speak personally with Mr German Cardona, but if you keep in contact via mail indicating that payment was proceeding to our partners, a fact which has not proved true.

That there is a malaise and a high degree of confidence of the investors from this situation and especially the face of repeated defaults and false expectations generated since only virtual accounting records have been obtained without being able to obtain real money.

For the above and to the uncertainty created by the current global financial status, we would not want our members to be involved should see by what is known as tacit acceptance of the circumstances that occur in Finanzas Forex, therefore, already given instructions to the Lords Associates of the desirability of appearing before a notary and get up a record of balances appearing on the Web, so you are advised to follow the following steps:

1. Appearing before the court on duty that corresponds to each partner as a place of residence, it may appear at any time and need not be accompanied by a lawyer.

2. Explain in a concise and clear business relationship it has with the investment company Evolution Market Group, represented by German Cardona Soler and what happened in chronological order, accompanied by the originals of the documents referred to numbered, and especially the original affidavit. You need to save a copy for you.
3. It is important to note that requested charge yields and possibly you tried to withdraw investment, explained what he says his promoter and that news will come by the website.

4. That makes it almost a year since charges, which do not demonstrably indicate what has happened to their money or where it is.

5. That you are aware that this is a high risk product and therefore can be lost, but this does not have to demonstrate a clear and transparent way what happened with your money.

6. It is convenient to explain in detail how the knowledge of such investment and the promoter who is assigned to finance forex investment operation, with name, address, town and telephone.

7. Indicate if any, the manner in which yields have become in his day and who paid them.

8. Explain that to the high profitability of this product is released to the relatives and acquaintances, which is why it appears to them as a sponsor you, it is convenient if you clearly explain what made known to his circle of family and friends an altruistic and with the illusion or otherwise help you to an intermediary to charge.

9. Explain that the system has established forex Finance does not allow an investor access to investment if not carried out via a promoter of Finanzas Forex, why you appear as such in the investment of family and friends.

For the purpose of this Association can stand trial in the appropriate procedural stage in the lawsuit if you so request, it is appropriate that we go via mail copy of the complaint and all documents produced.

A. Alcaraz
President
ANIMDEX

periegetes · Objavljeno: 28 Sep 2009 01:00 Naslov sporočila:

VIR Solo deamigos de finanzas forex :
[url]http://soloamigosdeffx.ning.com/forum/topics/reunion-y-lanzamiento-de[/url]

Hello everyone!

First of all apologize for not
shared news yesterday, spent
I've had problems with the pc and I
is doing very difficult to write ... "jumping on
One Leg ... Friends, I had the honor of having
been one of the guests at the PRESENTATION
PFPlace ( "People Financial Place").

I will be brief because I hope that it will soon give
hanging in the web the ppt or pdf of the presentation
which will be a tremendous tool for our
business because he can not hardly read it
want to take part in a business-and not
seem exaggerated them will be a milestone in business
on line ...

I hope to convey the excitement here
we have lived to carry lots of peace and
hope you all ...

I will not go into details but hope to
to summarize the meeting ended that while
in the day yesterday, I will stay in Valencia until
next Wednesday. I hope to talk
Germain personally, as they are doing
several directors from different countries to bring information
his people in particular.

The first hour of the meeting was to talk about FFX.
I can only say that by the end of the year - as
previously discussed in this forum - we will have
good news ... Also, as anticipated,
in the coming days are going to get payments up to date ...
some advice: I too am waiting to collect
the last two months but no card
I let this incredible opportunity to promote
business ... INVITE EVERYONE TO BELONG
COMMUNITY PFPLACE ...!!

First Germain Clarke spoke about the vision and
mission which will PFP, which could be synthesized in
this thought: Imagine if Facebook, who will
bill this year to $ 500 million, or Sonic
(a network in Spanish), which has 40 million users,
share their profits with the users?

PFP is that and much more ...

Then to the surprise of all, the CEO spoke
broker who will be where we invest-who
we want-and those we manage the accounts.
It will win no returns or commissions
Forex, but yields win
forex (who invest) and we will win, and this
WE-It should be clear: COMMITTEES
BY ADVERTISING.

Gentlemen, the broker is no. 3 Europe
and the first broker who brought to this continent
trading platform for anyone
could operate from home or office.

The name is FOREXONE and may find
all information in www.forexone.ch

Those who want to get on this train and make a lot
more money than we earn before, with a concept
business revolutionary, new,
make money by doing what we are already doing:
be connected to the internet in a social network that will
ALL YOU HAVE ANY OTHER RESOURCES ...

I'll make it short but I get kicked because the hotel lobby
http://www.ac-hotels.com/120-AC_VALENCIA.html
Ahi va, telegram type:

- We will win 10-levels deep.
- We will have a MESSENGER! where we
see our "friends" and "friends of our friends" .. etc
several levels deep ... and not only that, we
VoIP calls like Skype (this is tremendous,
Oscar at the meeting successfully tested call from
an account in your mobile!).

+ + I have just been notified that the presentation is now
hanging! ... to download!

A hug to everyone and congratulations to those new
believe without seeing!

PD: German has just passed and I have an appointment
with tomorrow night ... Folks, this
is very exciting and I wish you all
those who have dreams ... dream big
and will run the risk that they meet ...

PD2: Preferi write a short comment
here we are many, to send my newsletter
my contacts ... I hope I can do it tomorrow
happens that Valencia is too beautiful
do not stop walking with friends FFX
-the real gains of our multi-.

PD3: Until tomorrow, we go to dinner with
"Pachito" Saul Guerrero Aristizabal ... chauuuu!

Davy_investor · Vajenec Pridružen/-a: 01.12. 2008, 18:48 Prispevkov: 91

[quote="periegetes"]Malce slabša novička; razmišljanje bivšega španskega košarkaša, zdaj uspešnega blogerja, pisatelja, avtorja in investitorja Aitor Zarate-ja. V zadnji njegovi knjigi je omenjen tudi FFX kot scam...
Ali ve kaj več kot mi???
Nekaj več o njem kot vlagatelju:
[url]http://www.cincodias.com/articulo/Sentidos/ex-jugador-baloncesto-ha-hecho-rico-futuros/20070205cdscdicst_2/cds5se/[/url]

Vir Invertired: [url]http://www.invertired.com/group_discussion_view.php?group_id=79&grouptopic_id=4490[/url]

[quote][size=12]''Around the page number 130 Aitor Zárate talk about FFX.
Basically called "stupid" investors for being involved in a scam but more stupid to continue believing the excuses of "business" and not acknowledging reality.''

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Saj ni treba verjeti izgovorom. Če pa spremljaš dogajanje, zaradi tistega 1% verjetnoti, da se bo kaj premaknilo, pa mislim da še nisi neumen!

periegetes

še nekaj povzetkov o prihodnosti FFX in PFP iz španskega foruma (uporabnik Kevlar - http://soloamigosdeffx.ning.com/forum/topics/resumen-de-actualidad-ffx-y)

Je pa, kot sem že napisal, še nekaj nejasnosti o času odblokiranja kapitala, tako vsaj razumem ... :roll:

[quote][size=14]PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE OF FINANCE FOREX (COMPILATION OF ALL THE FORUMS)

How long are going to be capital locked?

He knew that we had the money blocked in late February 2009.
And blocked it in October.
The company gave yields that did not know what happened.
The capital is still blocked.
The greatest problem is that people have invested the money they could not or did not, even though the contract said otherwise.

The house broker is obligated by law to put that paragraph in the contract.
All the money is undocumented and in the bank, not lacking anything.
The reason of the blockade have been several,
between them, Madoff,
Authorities believed that we were a "similar"
therefore the U.S. government had blocked any site where many investors.

The authorities we care about the personal situations and move around.
On October 31 there will investigating the case.
All documents will be presented showing that the money is from each one of us,
everything is on the bench waiting for to close the case and our money back.

To return the money two things will happen:
"I returned to the company and it gives us.
- The authorities can return the money to each of us,
for that they have to audit each account,
this would take many years.
That may be a claim against the United States of thousands of people.
You may also return it quickly to anyone who has made a transfer.
All the money and the guarantee fund
be of benefit to investors.

FFX, will persist until I have money from investors,
it is expected that as much more or less a year.

Payments.
This next week than 10 days are expected to be charged all credit cards.
If money is operational
that no charge?
Not all that money is liquid,
operations are in the longer term,
but everything is supported,
although not everything is as fast as we would like
but all the money is operational.

By 15 October, all payments will be regularized.
Let anyone can redeem their cards this week charged.

WE Cards
Stopped working due to the harassment and
calls from people,
that made the first that failed to receive the cards outside Latin America.
People with WE and that at some point could carry your card
it is unusable and is operational,
others do not,
so they returned the amount of the card,
that are 150 dollars.
Anyone who wants can ask for another card Altair
You can order two per person.
Altair Card
First thing to know and
understand that all money movements are very controlled.
That means that the cards are not exempted from investigation.
There is a department of "compliance" that reviews all we ask for cards and
if we are clean,
if we give consideration to us.

The end of November will PFPLACE our own card.
This card has no limit as above,
can be passed to the account of Altair the money we want,
the first time are 3500 $ and since there are 4500 $ a day.
People who call and disturb card companies,
there will be no choice but to expel them.
Although money will not unlock the company in no time have the capacity to accredit the entire capital of all investors.

PFPLACE
People Financial Place
It is the structure,
the instrument,
that will allow us to continue working without problems,
earning more and working less.

We are going to copy,
do not hesitate and
this in the reason that has not been passed on information to anyone.
1st page viewed on the internet is Google
2 ª------ MSN
3 ª------ Facebook (10,000 million $)
4 ª------ Youtube (300 mill. People)
Sonic is a social network is only for speaking,
has 40 million users.

El Mundo / El Pais in their digital editions have more than one million hits daily.
PFPlace is a social network that shares its advertising revenue with those who invite new users.
What gives?
Social Network
Digital Journal
Business Center
Web Mail
SIGNIFICANT GAINS
It's like we have, the same business moved to a simplified form.
Social Network:
It is a meeting place,
where users will see different companies,
they pay for advertising or being in a social network.

The advertising pays for different concepts,
by clicks,
per customer,
for sale ....

All companies want to sell their products and be where the people are.

There will be rotation of products,
local products (which will mean products to run in one place or another does not)
We're not promoters,
that is the problem we had,
invite only social network,
financial backers are not.
There will be very good partnerships with the advertiser,
so you get very good results.
The 5-September-2009, there were 35,000 registered
2 days ago 90,000.

In all social networks are 800 million people registered worldwide.
How many will be in PFPlace if you pay for the chat, read the newspaper ... ....?

Be clear, WE PAID FOR PROMOTING SOCIAL NETWORK.

Anyone can be a poster.
They can register the minor,
they may not collect money,
but this will result in credits that can be used in the network,
such as mobile recharge.
It's a business not attached to a product,
but the products will go through the network.

Digital Journal
The newspaper's director is Carlos Penaloza
a professional with a spectacular resume.
We are fortunate to have him.
It will be a diary of local information,
national and international information daily including weekends and public holidays,
even with live news.
The team is very large and
complex by the diversity of languages.
Since journalists have to talk and know the country well.

The different pitches are:
• 5-October-2009 Spanish edition. It is the third most spoken language.
• 5-October-2009 English edition. 600 million speakers
• 5-December-2009 Edition in French and Portuguese. 370 million speakers
• 5-Jan-2010 Russian edition. 278 million speakers.
• 5-February-2010 edition in Arabic. 530 million speakers.
• 5-March-2010 edition in Chinese. 900 million speakers.

House broker "FOREXONE"
It is the first trading platform that opened in Switzerland in 2002.
Registration is on
www.zefix.ch
Regulated, registered and listed on the Frankfurt Stock Exchange.
Forexone Group AG,
is a very important group within the sector.
The house broker called Draphira and is based in Cyprus,
by the issue of bank license application.

Switzerland is very restrictive.

Being in Cyprus allows us to invest as retail investors.
If you want to see videos Forexone comparative,
We can do it
www.cityguide.com
In recent years it has been ranked in the ranking as the 3rd best company in the sector.
From now on will be the number one thanks to all of us.
Each client,
open an account directly with Forexone,
No time limits,
ie we do not have to be paid 6 months
each account is the customer's name and
he decides how to invest,
with a trader,
that amount,
how and
when.
If one month wants to withdraw a portion of the capital invested,
as requested and
Forexone it or deposited in Pacific Mutual
by electronic bank transfer.

Draphira is a very conservative
uses a leverage of 1:1,
this allows for positive and safe.

Are joining the new company traders,
we choose to put an amount with each of them if that is our wish.

There will be some more conservative and more daring or suicidal.
Forexone be responsible for direct contact with customers,
have a call center with 50 people in Spanish.

Information and advice to customers,
Give lectures on-line and
training.

We choose whether we want trader us or that we do everything themselves.

Computer Support
We have servers in Europe, located in London.
In Latin America in Argentina.
Are being assembled in Mexico and Asia.
Ready to support one million simultaneous inputs,
traffic that is used is 20-30 megabit.

Working Group
1. Enterprise Software.
2. Empresa Grafica
3. Research and Development Company.

Club Talk
It will be ready between 5-8 October. It's a chat.
1. Friends
2. My Network (enterprise codes)
3. We decide who we can connect or not, both in ascending or descending line.
4. Chat Multi-languages, you write in Spanish and your friend will get into yours.
5. Vo IP
a) Free calls between users.
b) calls to the telephone network.
6. Conference between 10 users.
We will have an assigned number.
TALK MOVILE.
We will use our service through Cellular,
celularres and have tailored programs are:
Iphone,
Blacberry and
Andros.

We will have an application that will download in the mobile from the page.
There will be a conference room.
PFPConference,
can be customized for use with our group or our friends, and so on.[/size] [/quote]

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Ker je prišlo do žalitve je STRONGBOW izključen za 14 dni.[/size][/color]

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